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Last week on the wonder pod. Well baby baby. But there is a quote that I love about being a lover by Ada Lamon, the poet is I am here to love and be moved by love. And I was like, wow, how much we miss when we're going after these like arbitrary goals and not letting ourselves stop and like be more expansive with our time. When you decide to look for delights, delights beget delights. Like they're exponential. Okay. The kids are okay.

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This is so good. We need to look at the night sky. Be prepared to think and feel in. There are no. Let's do it.

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Ready to rumble. So, Maddie, you brought uh a crazy story or some kind of thing that you want to tell us about that we don't we don't know what we know what it is. Yes, it's titled The Crazy String of Events. Okay. It culminates in me going to a seven-day silent meditation retreat at a Buddhist monastery, having had no meditation experience.

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Wow.

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It all began when I was looking for mushrooms in Benz, like magic mushrooms, someone to someone to procure magic mushrooms from. And I go to active culture a lot, the restaurant.

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And you would think there would be some overlap there, yeah.

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There was clear I profiled, I profiled a worker, and it was like he absolutely does mushrooms. So I went up and I was like, hey, if this is an uncomfortable thing for you, you don't need to tell me, but do you know anyone who sells mushrooms? And he was like, Oh yeah, my friend. Here's his contact. Reach out to him. Reach out to this guy, met up with him. He's so incredible. A friend now. And when we meet up and when I get these amazing, like artisanal chocolate bars from him, it's actually this incredible. Um hit me up if you're interested. Um it's this incredible um like black market chocolate thing that this really good chocolate that is found at like Market of Choice in Newport Market. They're they're on the down low business is making really great mushroom chocolate bars. Wow. Yes, and they're beautiful and incredible. And yes, met up with him, we got to talking about community. He was telling me that a really great spot for community is the meditation sits around town. And he sent me a couple, and I completely forgot about it and just didn't follow through on looking into it. A year goes by. I move into where I'm at now with my roommate Emma, and Emma has a friend over, Emily. And Emily was just getting back from a retreat at what I discovered was called the Great Vow Zen Monastery in Klaskanae, so Northwest Oregon on the border of Washington and Oregon. And she was talking about how incredible it was, and I was like, that reminds me that I was told by my Willy Wonka that's what I call them, that there were these meditation sits, and I want to look into them and realized that, oh, there's one right by my house now. And so I went there on Monday nights at Trinity Church, and I went and did the sit and had no idea what I was doing, and that it was fun and fine. And afterwards, a person comes up to me and said, Oh, is this your first time? Clearly it was, and we got to talking about meditation and the effect that it had on him, and he was like, If you ever get a chance, you should go to the Great Bowsen Monastery. And I was like, Huh, I that's why I'm here because someone had a great experience there. Oh wow. We share information and continue on. Maybe a week or two later, I'm at work. A coworker said, Hey, I just got back from an event, a conference, and we got this little book, and I'm not interested in it, but it seems like it could be up your alley. And it was this little book called Meditation on the Go by Jan Chosen Bays, who, when I flipped to about the author, is the founder of the Great Bowson Monastery. I was like, I'm being harassed by the universe. Like, what's happening? So I look it up, I look up this place, because this is the third time in a short amount of time that I've heard about this place that I've never heard about before. Wow. And find out that there's this seven-day meditation retreat in November. At this point, it's October. And for my work, I'm a dispatcher at 911, and for my work, we are on teams, we're on shifts, and only one person on a team can be going on vacation at one time.

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Okay.

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So, and we choose our vacation a year before. We lay out our whole vacation for the whole year, a year in advance. And or October of the year that's coming up is October to October. It's when we schedule our vacations. Anyways, I look at who has vacation at that time, and it was actually the guy who gave me the meditation book.

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Oh God.

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So I go up to him and I was like, Hey, what are you doing in that with that November vacation? Is there any chance you'd be able to trade me vacations? I only have one left. It's coming up real quick. Would you be down to trade? And I was not thinking that that was gonna work. And he said, Are you kidding me? I've been looking everywhere for a trade for that specific, those specific days. Oh my gosh. I'm trying to uh help my brother move across the country. And like, really, are you sure? That's so huge for me. And I was kind of shocked, and I was like, wow, like win-win. Yeah, I was like, man, I really could have actually like charged him some money or something for this. Kind of missed an opportunity there. But that was crazy, and so I went to this meditation retreat, and it was unbelievable. It was life-changing. Go to the Great Bowsen Monastery, they do weekend retreats or these seven-day long meditation retreats. They do the seven-day long ones monthly. Oh my gosh. It's donation-based. So pay what you can. We brought the food. We were responsible for bringing bring grains, bring protein. It's all uh vegetarian, so bring grains, bring protein, bring food for everyone. And they actually kept track of who brought the food. And the cook made incredible meals, three meals a day, based off of the donations only. We only ate what we brought. Whoa. And we ate incredibly. And before every meal, they would say this food, this meal was provided by Wolf and Meredith and Maddie. Yeah. So I had not meditated before. It was in this gorgeous, repurposed elementary school that was on the edge of a forest, and it was fall at that time, and just beautiful and yellow and bursting. And the it was very strict. We turned our phones in, we turned our phones off and in at the beginning of the week. And we woke up at 4:20, a little bell rang, and we had until 5 a.m. to get into the Zendo, this really beautiful meditation room. We would meditate for 25 minutes at a time. So you sit on your little mat and you meditate for 25 minutes. Then a bell rings, you have less than a minute to readjust, back down for 25 minutes. A gong rings, you walk around for five minutes. It's a walking meditation. And at that time you can also go to the bathroom and get water, but they they encourage you to stay and do the walking meditation if you don't need to figure anything else out. Then you go back down for 25 minutes, bell rings, readjust, back down. So it's a hundred minute chunks of sitting. Wow. And you do that four times a day. Oh my goodness. And a week. The first 25 minute chunk, I was like, what have I done? What have I done? What have I done? What have I done? I was actually like, I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out, I'm claustrophobic. I don't know what's gonna happen, but I'm gonna explode. And really scared. Oh. And I was like, man, I have to find, I have to find some way to make this work. And so just started trying to focus on listening to my breath. And what was super interesting was I was freaking out because I was thinking, what do you mean I have to do this for 25 minutes again and again and again? And I'm gonna do that four more times for seven days. It's pretty fucking rigid, yeah. When you think about it as the full picture, it's undoable. But when you dial it back to saying, Oh, I can do this breath right now, I'm okay right this second, it was almost like I stumbled upon the point by necessity.

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Wow.

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Like, oh, I actually can only be here right now because I'm freaking out otherwise. You don't need to think about the future, and that's the whole point of meditation and presence. So it was so fun to come full circle to the thing that will help me in this is the point of it. And every day we had a work assignment, and I was placed in the garden. I mean the garden. It's amazing, and I was with one other participant and chosen the woman who founded the monastery was the person I was in the garden with.

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Wow.

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Hell yeah. But you didn't talk. No, it was silent. Wow. So she would pass me notes of pull the I don't even know the flower names anymore, but she'd but she would point things out, like a bird chirping, she'd point it out, and be kind of laughing to herself. And she would whisper things to me, but I didn't respond much back to her. And she was not, she lived at the monastery, but she was she's about in her eighties, and so she no longer participates really in the retreats, other than being in the garden. Oh, what a beautiful life! It was so crazy to be able to be there with her, and her book is the book I was given before going there. No way, and it was so strange to be working in the garden, so strange and so beautiful to look up and see so many other people around working and only hear like the creak of a wheelbarrow. It felt like a Jordan Peel movie.

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Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.

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Like if anyone walked up on this, it'd be so scary. Oh my god. If they didn't know it was happening. And scary. It was beautiful. I didn't know people's names, but I felt like I made good friends there. You don't know what they do for a living. There's no there's no social hierarchy, you don't know who's funny or smart or all these things that kind of create whether we like it or not, this hierarchy and socializing with people. And when I would just think about these people that I appreciated, just their faces came to mind because I didn't know their names, and that was really beautiful. Cool, that's really cool. And um, I came up with this fun little uh brain image. I ended up switching to you're supposed to focus when you're meditating. What they suggested you do is focus on one of your sense gates, so your five sense gates. You can focus on your breathing or your or what you like can taste or feel or hear. And hearing was uh listening was something that pulled at me. I thought that I had to do the breath because that's what uh meditating always says like follow your breath, yeah, watch your breath. And I was doing that and I kept being pulled away by these sounds, and there were these frogs that were so loud, just super loud frogs, because the Zindo, the meditation room, had two walls of windows that they had open.

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Oh my god.

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And I didn't know this until the third day, but they put microphones out the windows. Oh for a while I was like, have frogs always been this loud? Like, have I gone all my life not knowing that frogs are this loud? Or like, am I just so present that sounds are more sharp? Like I was freaking out a little bit about the frogs until I noticed one day that there were microphones out the window. So funny. Um, but it was gorgeous. You could the frogs were really loud, you could hear deer walking in the walking by. You could hear deer walking. Yes. I don't hear that much. Yes, and when it rained, it was unbelievable. When a when an airplane would go by, we were like there was no music, there was no white noise, there was no machines. No. Wow. Um, other than you could kind of because it was so quiet, hear the buzzing a little bit of the microphones or the equipment because it was also being live streamed, you could hear the technology a tiny frequency a little bit. But I got into liking listening as my sense gate, and I came up with this little image for myself because every time I strayed and would come back, realized that I had strayed in my mind and came back, I'd be like, ah, shoot, no, okay, here, okay, let's try again. And then I was like, that's not gonna help me. I'm not gonna be incentivized to come back to the present if I'm punishing myself. True sound. So I started just being like, Woo, I'm so glad you're back. And then I came up with this little image of my soul in bed next to this window, and I imagine it in this little cabin. And my soul is in bed, and the covers are pulled up to its chin, and little feet are poking out, and the window's open right next to it, and my soul is listening to all the sounds. And then when my mind or my thoughts uh are also listening to the sounds, my soul's like, get in here, like come listen to this with me and come cuddle. And then we'll both we're both in there with the covers up to our chins and giggling, like, did you hear that? That was so cool, like ha ha ha. And then every time my thoughts would stray and I'd realize I left, my soul would be like, Ow, I missed ya. And then when I felt that a thought wanted to, I could like feel a thought wanting to take me, but I was able to kind of hold it. I was like, and you get in here too. So I was kind of like adding all these monkeys to the bed, and then it all like wipe clean, and then I have to start over again. That's beautiful. It was such a fun little image that I created that made it playful, and just realizing that it's so much more fun to share things, and I was like sharing this among myself because instead of like barricading, like stop thinking about that. Yeah, yeah. I had to like create multiple little personalities in myself to like share this experience with myself, and it made it more impactful or something like that. Yeah, you can it's custom made. You did you did it for yourself. That's amazing. What an incredible experience. And so much magic in there. The crazy stream continues that um right after the first person I saw was my grandma because she lives close to the monastery, and I'd never seen her without going with more with family members. And I went alone and I went to see her and I told her about the retreat. And she is a big reader, and she was like, I think you'd like this Tik Not Han book called Living Buddha, Living Christ, and it's about the intersection of Christianity and Buddhism.

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Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

And she gave it to me. It was this like red cover, 10th anniversary edition that came out in like 2003 or something, and I took it and I was excited about it. I later had a phone call with my friend who I met at the meditation in Bend, who had told me I should go to the Great Bow Center, and we talked about how it went, and then when we hung up the phone, he texted me and he was like, Oh, duh, I'm just starting to read this book that I'm realizing would be so relevant for you. And he sent a picture of the same 10th anniversary edition to Ed Color like you can't go to the bookstore and get that edition.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

That is some harassment. So, and then that friend and I ended up going to Maui, and it was a great time. Wow. So that was kind of the end of the string of events, but of course the string always unfurls. Yes. I'm still, I guess I'm still on the ride, but it's a little bit less harassy right now. Wow.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

What do you make of uh the nudges in those in that particular direction from whoever's driving if someone's driving?

SPEAKER_02 18:09

That's a lot of nudges.

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I know it is like it felt like this rapid unfolding, just like this inertia and momentum that I was just along the ride for, and the only ask of it was to stay on the ride and just see what happened. That's really cool. Just to be right here, right now. Yeah, it was just kind of like whoa, like I've never had experience this before, and I actually kind of want to shelter myself and like not listen to these things. But what if I just like do that? Like, what if I go because just try it? Because multiple people have told me that. And what if I like what if I try and see what happens? And I think that's something that I a lesson that I have needed and I'm still working on is I have a lot of ooh, I want to do this, I want to do that, but I need to like be I need to check all these boxes before I go do these things I've been dreaming of instead of just like do it. And more doors are gonna fling open. Like only with motion will you stay in motion. That's true.

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Yeah, I've noticed as I've gotten older, that's gotten a lot harder. Like when I was younger, I used to just like go and do stuff that I was totally unprepared for all the time. And like most of the time was fine, you know? Like, and as I've gotten older, I feel like I I get into that mindset that you're describing, you're like, oh well, yeah, but like you have to do all these initial steps before you do it to like guarantee success.

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I don't want to be a poser, or this isn't responsible, or gotta do it the right way.

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And it's like actually you don't have to do that stuff. Like you could just go for it.

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And learn along the way and get uncomfortable. And being excited about it draws people in and will draw help in.

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Totally.

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And you'll tours. You'll be surprised, you'll be delighted, you'll be impacted in a lot of ways.

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And I find that oftentimes when I when I get into the like, well, I have to do all these preparatory things first, I do all the preparatory things, and I do the thing, and I'm like, oh, like because I hadn't done this before and didn't really understand what it took, I did the wrong preparation. And like I guessed too hard, you know, around it, and I could have just gone and done the thing and like probably would have had like a couple of hiccups that I didn't expect, but like would have been fine.

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Manageable, yeah.

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And instead I spent a bunch of time doing stuff that like I didn't want to do and actually didn't help.

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And it just could be defeating. Yeah, yeah. Just stops you from doing the actual thing.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

That could have been a totally different experience and could have been a positive experience. Way to go, way to say yes, way to be open. And that's still something I think I've kind of retreated back into my shell and I need to learn that again. Yeah. So I think it'll be a constant relearning. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Until we die, man. If we're doing it right.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

No doubt about that.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Well, thank you for sharing that fun, exciting journey. Yeah, and I think that it really I used to kind of be scared of new experiences. And this that whole experience opened. I just went on a trip to Europe, and I've never been on such a big long trip. We were gone for 20 days.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

And that would have been pretty overwhelming for me in the past. And I think I told my sister this. I was she was like, It's so incredible that you had such a positive experience. Usually you like being home, and that would be a bit overwhelming for you. And I said I really feel like it was a meditation retreat that somehow in Some way that I can't even really explain, slept off this defense I had against being scared of new or being trusting myself that I can handle the the feelings of something new. Yes, like you're gonna figure it out. I feel that often. In fact, I was telling myself that this morning. I don't remember what I was thinking about that was maybe ahead of me or something, but I just told myself I'm gonna figure it out when I figure it out. And I don't I don't need to like prep or worry or like throw it around in my head endlessly or chew on it. I'll just at some point I'm gonna find some clarity. And it's self-trust to know that when I'm faced with it, I will have to make some sort of movement and choice, and I can deal with it when that's ha when that happens. I don't need to be too like worried or yeah, right.

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I can believe I can believe in myself enough that like I'll get to that point and I'll be able to make a good choice and execute on it and it'll be fine.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

And there's probably an infinite amount of good choices, and even if you make a quote unquote wrong choice, then it's gonna lead you down a different path that you'll make a right choice in at some point and will lead you and will lead you to somewhere you had no idea you'd end up and you're so grateful for it or something. Right. There's no wrong choices. Hell yeah. I agree. Just be right here, do your best right now. That's what I try to do when I remember. And if it if you have some regret about it, take note and next time when you're at that fork, be like, oh, I I put that sign there for a reason, and I know I I think that I know what that avenue that I've walked down before will lead to. Maybe I don't, maybe I'm actually blocking myself from a totally new experience by applying an old experience to it, but I can choose a different fork. You're not bound to my metaphor sometimes. Okay, speaking of your Europe trip, what inspired the trip? Yes. Okay, so the whole reason why I was there was that my best friend of since freshman year of high school, Bridget, her fiance Ben, is in a band and they're called the Max M-A-C-K-S Look Them Up.

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Nice.

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They were touring Europe.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Ah, cool.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Their first ever show was in the cafeteria of our high school.

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Hell yeah.

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So it's been so cool to see them in the cafeteria and then to go along with their European tour. And um we did not, they were going city to city, so we intersected with them. Okay, sure. But it was Bridget, Kaya, our friend who's also dating the singer of the band, and I, who were kind of the main three groupies. And yeah, yep. Yep. I said I was an honorary groupie, but then turned out you turned into a real one. Yep. For a minute for a good time, and then and then hopped back out. Yep. Um, and we met up with our friend Hope in France, and um, the whole itinerary was fly in to London. We went up to Amsterdam, then Brussels, then Paris, then Rouen, which is this really awesome medieval city west of Paris that has been completely maintained in the 1200s. Oh yeah, crazy. Go there. Awesome, go there. It was crazy. I felt like I was in Beauty and the Beast. Oh. Um, we went back to Paris and we were in Paris on Valentine's Day, which was gorgeous. Yeah, very romantic. All of the street corners were bursting with bouquets of flowers. Everyone was in their incredible outfits, but so many like red suits or so much red and pink, cool, and just killing it. Oh. And everyone was carrying around huge bouquets of flowers too. And it started snowing while we were just people watching, and we were I was eating, I was eating an omelet, and wow! So that was incredible. We were in Paris eating an omelet, and we were just yeah, eating an omelet, just sitting on those little like outside-inside things and just watching people. It was gorgeous. Paris, I love Paris, it's absolutely worth the hype and more. Yeah, I'm obsessed with it. And then went to Bordeaux and had this amazing experience at this family-owned vineyard. Got the whole tour of the vineyard, and the woman who runs it now is 27, and she was just hanging out with us. Oh fun! Was so knowledgeable, and it was just so cool to see. Like she's her parents own it, but she does all the operations now, and uh then we went, we popped up to Dublin and then flew back out of London. Nice, wow, wow, but I did write a poem about a pub in Dublin.

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Please share.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

And it is in its first draft, so it's not it's not perfect. The Palace Bar, Dublin. We refuge in a crowded pub, a stormy Dublin day. Is it always? A group of males the table over, debating years of historical happenings. We play cards, cock our ears. They query very serious questions into very serious AI. They laugh, lift dark, foamy nectar to lips, delivering vows, rounded and floating in the ocean breeze, tongues curling like white caps into cliffs of consonants falling into brawny arms. One of them, red-haired, or did I make him red in memory? A box of money plants at his feet, purchased on the walk to the pub, a Chinese New Year treat, the year of the horse will hold on to anything these days. I've had mine six years, I cut with my blunt American tongue. And then the question from the shadows across, lit by the pub lights, head cocked, legs crossed, and are you rich? He asked with such measure, all I had was a shrug and then realized my treasure. I guess I'm here. Right here from my land afar, over the rainbow and Beehan and Kavanaugh, O'Brien's bar. So yes, it seems I am very rich. How easily fortunes forgot. An Irishman's question to gently remind, to look in my hand, and to find this whole time the luck of the Irish already mine, a nugget of gold already mined, perspective as king at the palace bar. Oh Maddie, I love your poetry.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

That was beautiful. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Fucking awesome. I wanted it to feel a little leprechaun-y.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

And I gave my uh nephew a collection of Dr. Seuss stories for his birthday. And halfway through writing this poem, I was reading the Lorax. And so halfway through the poem, it turns into like Dr. Seuss. I love that. That was marvelous. Thank you so much. I love when you read your poems. She wrote an incredible poem about a lemon in her there's a big print of a lemon in her kitchen. And on the print it says, Do you want me to read the poem? Fuck yeah. So what does the print say? Uh, when life gives you lemons, you must eat the lemon, all of it, including the skin.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Wow, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

So she wrote a poem about it. And it was given to me from an ex. It was given to me by an ex, and this is about that relationship. This is Get Ready. This is so good.

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Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Yeah, I love your I love your words. It's called, and I made some edits since you left. Yeah. A lemon. You gave me an art print when I moved to the house on the hill, the house in the middle of town. Everyone said it would be so nice to be in the middle of things. So nice to live away from the winding river trail. It's blue jay that looked me straight in the eye, singular, before letting out a startling shriek. So nice to live far from the pond and the circles expanding on its surface, away from the red-winged blackbirds gathering on battered cattails at sunset. When life gives you a lemon, you must eat the lemon. All of it, including the skin, the prince said, with a big yellow lemon at its center. Because I know this move is hard, you said. Now I wonder if you gave me instructions on how to eat us, all of us, how to swallow your amber eyes, soft voice, my body in the crook of yours, the bluetooth rush at the double sink, including our skin. I thought I was being wise, Amber Eyes. I thought I'd walked this road before that more would lead to more, more pain, more tightly woven strings to cut, more blood at the inevitable terror. I thought that if I listened to my gut, it would spare that mountain of pain, that desert of prayer. Now I gnaw at our soured, dry skin, and wonder if the gut has any idea about matters of the heart. Maddie, I feel like I could cry. It's so beautiful. Thank you. I'm crying. Oh, it's so beautiful. Thank you. That means a lot too much. Thank you so much. And it means so much coming from a writing coach. Because I have big imposter syndrome. So that's thank you. You got it, man. You've got it. I only really do it for emotional release, so I can't really sit down and I'm feeling good. And that's great. That's something I'm going to do. That's one of the main times that I write is when I need to let it out. I don't know if you'd be willing, but I don't know if there if it's possible to like print it out and frame it. I and I don't know. I just I do have a little poetry box at in front of my house that I switch out the poetry for. And I was thinking about putting it, absolutely. I would definitely hang that. I would ask Wolf to frame it for me. I fucking love your poetry. Oh yeah, you frame. Yeah, he does. He's a framer. He's been framed.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Been framed.

unknown 32:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Thank you. That gives me so much confidence and excitement. And there one of my dreams is to go to some sort of MFA in poetry, maybe in London. And that seems like one of those. I'll do it when I'm ready. I'll do it when this isn't responsible. Like, yeah. I don't know. I am moved. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Would be a fun little zine with the little print in the front of the zine and then the poem going through, working its way through.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

I love that. I said that I was so mature in the ending of that most recent relationship, but I did write a poem that was that specifically spoken word that that was how I really felt. And it's not mature? No. Here we go. Yes, it's called You're not even worth a poem. Oh hell yeah. You're not even Women Don't Own You Owe Shit. Yes. I am wearing a shirt in honor of National or International Women's Day called. Wow, I cannot speak. It's okay. I am wearing a shirt right now that says Women Don't Owe Shit in Honor of International Women's Day. Hell yeah. Okay. This is called You're Not Even Worth a Poem. You're not even worth a poem. So I'm not gonna write one. Ha. Not even to mention how you say one thing, mean another, should have caught the red flag when you said you had a falling out with your brother. You mother. Did I mention addicted to his mother? Never make another woman a mother. Disgrace thy motherfucking piece of shit. Okay, take care. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Wow. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Fuck yeah, dude. Because I was like, all good, bye. Bitch.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Oh wow, that that needs to be more in the world than it is right now, I think.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

I think that maturity doesn't I mean you handled the breakup with plenty of maturity. And then you there are other parts too that are we have space for those too. They're they're part, they're just as vital. Like that needed an outlet. Yeah. He doesn't need to hold that for me because he's proven incapable of that, which is why it ended. But I needed to put that out somewhere. Maybe I'll send him this copy. You're not even worth a text.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Oh wow. Okay. Well, do you have a this has been great? Amazing. Fantastic. Do you have a closing quote for us?

SPEAKER_01 35:18

I do. This is actually hanging on my fridge. How do we look unflinchingly at all the evil in the world and still attempt to not just love beauty, but to create something beautiful. Ludwig van Beethoven.

SPEAKER_02 35:37

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

Maddie, so much. This was so fun.

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I'm such a big fan.

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Honestly.

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I love you guys. I love you. I said this off the air, but I think you guys are the coolest.

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On the record.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

Well, thank you so much for coming. This is great. Um, and spending some time with us. We didn't get to like half the stuff on the list.

SPEAKER_01 35:59

We're gonna have to have her back on the way to cover multiple topics. 911 operator, that's another 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Yeah, easily at some point.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Yeah. And we already said that I'm gonna flip the microphone around to you guys at some point. That's right. That's right. Marin Wolf in the hot seat to come. Stay tuned. Gonna get uncomfortable. We in a theater near you.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

All right. Um, and just a reminder that if you uh look for your daily, your weekly delights. Delights. Thank you. Um really said something about me that I can't remember that word. Um yeah, send them to us. Send an email with a voice note if you want, or you could just send a little email with the code. Or text us if you have our number. We'll read it.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

We'll read it out for you.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Wow at wonder.media is what we'll read out, I think.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Okay. Sure. And remember that Wonder is spelled with a U because we're not like other girls.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

All right. Well, um Thanks for listening. Uh make sure to subscribe to the podcast. If you're not already subscribed, send it to a friend if you liked it, and you have cool friends, which obviously you're listening to the show, you must. Uh rate it on the platform on your podcast platform of choice. And um if you have other thoughts or questions, you can send us an email.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Give yourself a hug. Love you. Love you.

SPEAKER_03 37:29

One, two, three.

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Last week on the wonder pod.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

Perfect. I couldn't improve on that.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Okay. Last.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Wait. I need your countdown again. That was good.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Okay.

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Alright.

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One, two, three.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Last week on the wonder wonder pod. Alright, one more.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

Okay, you say last.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

Okay. Last week on the A.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Just say one word at a time.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

Okay. Last week on the Wonder Pod. Alright, we gotta try. We can do that, but it needs to be smoother. We need to be faster. Not the fast transitions faster, you know.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Last week.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

Um, let's try again.

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Last week on the Wonder Pod.