SPEAKER_00 0:00

Big nature getting in here just brainwashing me. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_04 0:04

No, no, no, no. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Squirrel lobby, watch out. Really powerful.

SPEAKER_07 0:14

Be prepared to think and feel anything.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

There are no for big.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

Not knowing what's out there.

SPEAKER_05 0:29

From this point on, beep. Mariah. Welcome to the wonder pod. I'm here with Wolf.

SPEAKER_06 0:37

Yes, hello. This is she. My name is Mariah. And tell us three things about yourself and pronouns. My pronouns are she, her, and my three things about me. Number one, I wrote, illustrated, and self-published a children's book, and I aspire to make that into my living. Wow. Hot.

unknown 0:59

Hot.

SPEAKER_06 1:00

Number two, I love deprogramming. I like to challenge my automated thoughts, responses, and habits. And number three, I don't half-ass anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

Ever?

SPEAKER_06 1:17

Ever. I'm a whole ass kind of girly.

SPEAKER_05 1:21

Hell yeah. Yeah. Have you ever been in a situation where you thought, I wish I was someone who half-assed things.

SPEAKER_06 1:28

Absolutely. Every single day. I wish I half-assed things.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

I'm trying to get better at that.

SPEAKER_06 1:34

I bet those people's lives are so much better.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

Seems easier.

SPEAKER_06 1:39

It seems so much easier.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

It seems easier. Are you deprogramming anything particularly?

SPEAKER_06 1:44

Uh all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:47

Anyone that stood out?

SPEAKER_06 1:49

Yeah, what are you letting go of and adjusting? Um, one of the most recent ones is that there are no rules.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

2026, baby.

SPEAKER_06 1:59

No rules. Um and and like the best most ridiculous example is finishing a movie. I I was watching a movie, I was very tired. And yeah, just like the fact that I don't have to finish the movie.

SPEAKER_05 2:18

You will not be persecuted. Even though prosecuted.

SPEAKER_06 2:22

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Why not both?

SPEAKER_06 2:26

Uh yeah, that's that's a simple example. But yeah, just like obviously we can do whatever we want.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:32

Because we're adults.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

But you forget sometimes.

SPEAKER_06 2:34

But yeah, like little things like that that you're just programmed into.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

Yeah, I'm trying to get better at that with books recently, where I'm like, oh, if I don't like the book, I can just not finish it. Like I could just I could just put it down and not open it again. It feels illegal. It totally does.

SPEAKER_05 2:49

Yeah. So when did you guys uh start realizing that you didn't have to finish things?

SPEAKER_06 2:54

This is around January for me.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Yeah, it's like in the last year.

SPEAKER_06 2:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

Movies movies are harder for me because I'm like the commitment is lower. I'm like, come on, you can just come on, stick it out. It's 45 minutes, you can fucking do that.

SPEAKER_06 3:07

A movie?

SPEAKER_03 3:08

The remainder for me.

SPEAKER_06 3:09

By the time you get to the point where you're like he's watching like Sesame Street movies. It's only 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

But the books is the books is harder for me.

SPEAKER_05 3:19

Oh, I I feel that a lot. Do you feel the uh time sunken whatever that is?

SPEAKER_03 3:25

No cost valves. I feel like I'm like, but what if it gets better? Yeah. What if I just haven't put enough effort in to appreciate the book for what it is? Yes. And then to put more work in, and then I will be rewarded for my efforts.

SPEAKER_05 3:41

Yes. Can I just be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03 3:43

But actually, I could just be done with it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

I I really want you to be honest with us.

SPEAKER_06 3:47

I'm not really into AI, but I used AI the other day to ask about a book that's like three inches thick that I'm reading. That's a fatty. It's a fat book. And it's funny, but the plots going nowhere.

SPEAKER_07 3:59

What's the book?

SPEAKER_06 4:01

Um Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norel, which is I think now on Amazon Prime as a show.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 4:10

Which I started the show and the show sucks. So um, but anyway, I asked AI, I was like, hey, I'm on this chapter, does it pick up? What? Because I'm so bored. And it was like, if you like the style of writing, you can keep reading. But if you don't like the style of writing, don't keep reading, because no, honestly, like it doesn't really get more interesting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

I think so.

SPEAKER_06 4:33

And so I decided I think I might not finish this book.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:36

And it's really empowering. So you've always finished books.

SPEAKER_05 4:40

You finish every book you've picked up. Yeah. I have so many books I have not finished. Sometimes I'm in the middle of reading like eight at once, and I just kind of move on.

SPEAKER_03 4:53

I have that happen too, and uh, but I guess it's different to me for me if I'm like, oh, I'm putting this book back on the shelf and I'm gonna come back to this later, as opposed to just being like, I'm just like gonna return this book to the library or get rid of it, or like I don't think I'm ever gonna read this book and that's fine. You know what I mean? Like I have that, yeah. If you look around, there's like bookmarks in like probably like 25 books right now, and some of them are quite old.

SPEAKER_05 5:17

Does that make you feel bad? Does it make your butthole clinch?

SPEAKER_06 5:21

No, I'm not really bothered by that. I think it's more like if you read half of a book and you think you're gonna get back to it, at least for me, I would forget what happened and I would have to start it from the beginning, which I've done before. And that feels like a waste of time.

SPEAKER_03 5:38

Hmm. I I'm trying to get more comfortable with that and also reading books the second time, which I almost never do. And I I feel like it's rewarding actually. And also, yes, restarting the book from the beginning, you know, and being like it's kind of like a one and a half reread, you know.

SPEAKER_05 5:54

That happened with me last week. I was watching a movie called It Ends With Us with Blake Lively. Have you heard of it?

unknown 6:02

No.

SPEAKER_05 6:03

Well, I hated the beginning. I also read the book and I just just I hated it.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

You hated the book and then you were like, let's see if the movie is better.

unknown 6:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

Like when has that ever happened? Um tell me, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

The movie got a lot of press. Okay. Uh, partially because Blake Liv it's about domestic violence.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:26

And Blake Lively famously said something like, Okay, girlies, put on your floral dresses and let's go to the movies. And making it sound all like lighthearted and like a picnic.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:38

When it was about domestic violence.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:41

So anyway, I started watching it and I'm like, eye rolling. And the the main character's name is Lily Blossom Bloom. And I just couldn't. I can't. I couldn't. No. But I did. And there were some curveballs. And I was like, alright, I'll uh and I finished it.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

Isn't it worth it? Worth the time?

SPEAKER_05 7:03

No.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

So that's uh that's definitely a point in the other column. Yeah. Let it go. Three out of ten. Wow. That's rough.

SPEAKER_05 7:12

Yeah. But it started out as a zero. So 100% improvement, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

You can take what you can get.

SPEAKER_05 7:21

So, guys, I um invited all of us to spend three hours outside uninterrupted on this episode's wonder quest. Mariah, what did you think of this thing that we do, this creative task? Before you talk about this one specifically, what is your take on it?

SPEAKER_06 7:41

I love this because this is a big part of my life in the first place.

SPEAKER_05 7:56

Like what? I mean, last night you and I and some children and some adults crawled around a play structure playing ghost tag, and it was really fun. Yeah. Talk about that. Talk about deprogramming.

SPEAKER_06 8:08

Yeah. I mean, that's one of the things is like trying to even gather adults that are willing to do that.

SPEAKER_07 8:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:16

Um, let's see. I the other day was walking around a neighborhood and I saw these three squirrels, and I stopped and watched these squirrels for like 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Oh, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_06 8:29

Because they were all playing.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:31

And then one of them noticed me and like was like kind of playing around with like coming near me. Wow. But then like would keep running back up the tree. It was just really funny. And I was like, huh. I can do whatever I want all the time. And I can stand here watching squirrels as long as I want to.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

And you've never taken mushrooms.

SPEAKER_06 8:50

I mean, I've tripped on things, not mushrooms. Um, yeah, and so stuff like that. Uh, I started putting collagen into my coffee, and the way that it falls into the liquid looks like erosion, but like time-lapsed. And so I've been really enjoying putting that in my coffee in the morning and being like, whoa! It is so cool. Wow. Do you put milk in it too? I put some half and half in there.

unknown 9:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:22

So yeah, stuff like that. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_05 9:23

So you're slightly daddy and being present.

SPEAKER_06 9:27

Yeah, yeah. I think a lot of it is uh trying to remind myself that yeah, there's there's nowhere to be. And even the places that I need to go be, I'm choosing to go be there. So like deconstructing the rush of life and working with kids contributes to this because when you're like, hey, we're gonna be late for school, that that doesn't make sense to a little kid, but they're like, what is late? Yeah. And so I I like that effect on my life.

unknown 9:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:59

Um, what's your relationship with time like now as opposed to before you started deprogramming?

SPEAKER_06 10:06

I'm really punctual because I respect other people's time.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

That is the driver for me.

SPEAKER_06 10:12

There you go. Um and just because I mean that is programmed into me, but I think that that one is worth respecting, honestly. Um but then time in other situations, like like one of them is that my mom, ever since I can remember, has a to-do list that's pages long. And I developed that. And in my early 20s, I would get everything on the to-do list done, and then the older I get, the less on my to-do list gets done. And this is another deprogramming moment. I have a whiteboard in my room, it has my to-do list on it. There was one moment that I was looking at it and I was like, ah, it's just too much. Ah, like I don't have time to do all these things. Like, uh, and I was like, I could erase something off of this list, and nobody's gonna get mad at me. This is my undue choice. Yeah. So I I erased a couple things. I was like, I don't want to do that thing, and it doesn't matter if I do it or not, and I took them off.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

I love that.

SPEAKER_06 11:15

So that's one thing with time that I've been deprogramming is like this idea that my mom instilled, which is like there's always something else to do. You always gotta do another thing. And I still I still have that, but I'm working on taking it apart.

unknown 11:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:28

That's very exciting. What is the catalyst for you for the deprogramming?

SPEAKER_06 11:33

Probably similar to your upbringing, just like, why are we doing all the things that we're doing? Who told us we have to do them this this way? And why do we keep doing them this way if it doesn't make sense? Like one big one is like table manners. Putting your elbows on the table is really comfy.

SPEAKER_05 11:51

Oh, seriously.

SPEAKER_06 11:52

So I put my elbows on the I also eat with my toes.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

So that seems like a skill, actually.

SPEAKER_05 12:03

Boring. Nice. Do you eat with your feet? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:12

It's kind of a weird question. Why wouldn't I? Yeah. Good point. I saw you eating that applesauce with it. With your toes. With your toes, yeah. Yeah. I put my long nice food.

SPEAKER_05 12:21

Scraped it out with my toes. Yeah. You saw that? Yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

Extra flavor.

SPEAKER_05 12:27

Oh, so good. The seasoning, yeah. For my day. Um, so did you do any deprogramming during this week's wonder quest? Session.

SPEAKER_06 12:40

No. No! It was pretty standard. Okay, what did you how did you spend your three hours outside? Uh I have a good friend that I go hike Smith Rock with on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. Wow. Misery Ridge. Yeah, Misery Ridge. So we did that, and that's like at least three hours, and I was like, cool.

SPEAKER_05 13:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:05

That was great.

SPEAKER_05 13:07

Nice job. I have to I have to call it Rainbows and Butterflies Ridge when I'm hiking it, because otherwise it's too I just can't handle it. It's too intimidating. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 13:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

I don't think I've ever been up there.

SPEAKER_05 13:20

What? Get out. You love it.

SPEAKER_02 13:23

I'll have to check it out.

SPEAKER_06 13:25

What did what did you guys do with your three hours outside?

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Um let's see. I uh took mine uh after work earlier this week. I was off at two, came home, made a snack, opened a bubbly water, and it was so nice. It was like it was like sunny with a little bit of a breeze and like 72 degrees. Like it was like it could not have been nicer outside. And so I sat on the porch and I drank my water and I smoked my pipe and did nothing for like 45 minutes. It was glorious.

SPEAKER_05 13:57

Good for you.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

And then I got a book and read for a little bit. On your porch? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:02

You have the best porch.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

It's pretty good. For that, for porch chilling. It's optimal. It's optimal. Um, yeah, it was glorious. It was nice because I was like, right, there's always like the million things to do, and I was like, but actually, it's really nice out. I'm wearing a summery shirt. I could just like lean into this and just I could sit here and do nothing, actually. Like that that's allowed.

SPEAKER_06 14:25

Tell us about that summery shirt. Yeah, I really am intrigued by that. Is it a tank top?

SPEAKER_03 14:29

No, no, it's like a short sleeve button up, but it's um white with rainbow stripes.

SPEAKER_06 14:35

Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

Like light rainbow stripes. Yeah. It's great. I just found it the thrift. I'm so stoked about it.

SPEAKER_05 14:40

It's like something I'd like.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

It is.

SPEAKER_05 14:44

Yeah. Well, I spent my time pretty much in my backyard last week, and I laid in the grass with nothing under me, just laid in the grass, no blanket or anything. It was like so crazy. And uh my roommate was out there for a little bit and she trimmed my what I call my sideburns, which is the hair above my ears, because I have a mullet and it's super hot and sexy. Not that anyone asked, but when We were all wondering. When I I know. I'm just here to serve.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

The audience was really wondering.

SPEAKER_05 15:19

Super sexy. And so um it looks really, really good when the sides are tight. Hella tight and crisp.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:28

And then the rest is wild. Today isn't the best example. I tried, I tried uh slicking my hair back, but Mariah said I need to wait three more weeks.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Or you just need some heavier juice, some thicker juice in there. It needs a little bit of length.

SPEAKER_06 15:44

But maybe both. Well, so pick a lane. Your three hours outside was good.

unknown 15:54

Right.

SPEAKER_06 15:55

Pick a lane, bitch. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

I just want to know about you. Suddenly bullying you. Uh um, anyway, so yeah, that was in the backyard. She just got the clippers and buzzed me out, buzzed me off.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

That's what they're calling it these days.

SPEAKER_05 16:14

And I took my shirt off, even though the neighbors can see. And I was like, is this cool? And she's like, You're like the most non-binary person. Like you have my support. And I'm like, wow, thank you. Just feels nice when people see that or think that. And so don't get me started on that on gender.

SPEAKER_06 16:33

Also, if somebody is looking in your yard, that's on them. I am very much like windows open. If I'm doing something inside with my windows open and some neighbor can see, that's not my problem. Look a different way. If it's something I don't want them to see, then I close my windows. Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, that is their problem.

SPEAKER_05 16:53

I spend a lot of time not wearing clothes and I'm I'm not modest and I'm not super worried about the situation. I'm not showing my you my coochie right now. I mean my yaya nya. My new new. That's what I heard it called today. That's that's what we call my cat sometimes.

SPEAKER_06 17:18

Your cat? Yeah. Her name is Nala and she has a bunch of nicknames, and one of them is Nunu. So I hate that for everybody. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:26

I like it. So uh where was I?

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Uh you were being outside naked a lot.

SPEAKER_05 17:34

Oh yeah. So I uh I'm in front of my bedroom window, just noodling around in my room, just tooling around. Which one is your noodle? Um my till. Okay. You'll you'll know it when you see it. Okay, great. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Um and my partner informed me that anyone on the street can see right into my window. Do you think that's a good one?

SPEAKER_03 17:59

That could be true. Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 18:01

Have you ever seen Me Naked up there?

SPEAKER_03 18:04

No.

SPEAKER_06 18:05

I would hope that Wolf isn't just going to your house and looking in the window when you don't know he's there anyway. No, he comes over a lot. Right, but like, is he just like sitting out in his car with the binoculars or something?

SPEAKER_05 18:17

I think he does now that you're mentioning it. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

You you should keep an eye out for that, maybe.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

Oh, I have a problem. So anyway, I do feel like it's well I if I didn't want to see nudity, which isn't the case, I would I would feel uncomfortable probably if I looked in someone's room as I was passing their house, not really intentionally trying to spy on them, and there was someone naked. I think I'd be like horrors and make and feel uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

And then you would look away and be like, hmm, maybe I shouldn't look in people's windows anymore. But we're all cloistered together. It's hard not to. So just simply don't look in people's windows.

SPEAKER_03 19:01

Do you think it's everybody's ever good to feel uncomfortable that you see people naked?

SPEAKER_06 19:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

No, I'm sorry, do you think everything that's I think Yeah, do you think it's good that that people feel uncomfortable about that?

SPEAKER_05 19:12

Um sometimes. I think there's a time and a place to feel discomfort. I obviously, as we as you probably know, I think that nudity should not be so horrifying and you're doing a public service. Yeah, this is deprogramming.

SPEAKER_06 19:30

I mean, don't tempt me with a good time. I think, yeah, you're doing everybody a favor by being as naked as you can in the confines of your home.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Watch out, what you suggest.

SPEAKER_06 19:43

FedEx knocks on the door and you're just like, what up? I'm I'm a taxpaying citizen. Yeah. Also, you're paying rent. What are you paying for if not for the privilege of being naked in your home?

SPEAKER_05 19:55

Naked in your home. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, there I was sitting in my backyard without a shirt on. And that's all that happened. Wow, that was really anticlimactic. Anyway, and then I went for a walk.

unknown 20:11

Nice.

SPEAKER_05 20:12

Yeah, I felt recharged. I felt lighter, I felt buoyant with less hair above my ears. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um, and yeah, just had a nice time being outside. So yeah, and praise the Lord because I love being outside and it makes me feel really good. And it's one of the only things that consistently makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_06 20:30

Yeah. That's why we have outside guilt, you and I.

SPEAKER_04 20:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:34

Because we know that after we're outside it feels so much better. It's like the reason with a capital R.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

Yeah. It's that's it. For real. Do you feel that way?

SPEAKER_06 20:46

Wolf thinks that What is it like to always be called out all the time by me? Well, wait, wait. Let him tell us what what Wolf thinks first, because I don't know what Wolf thinks.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Yeah, what were you gonna say about that?

SPEAKER_06 21:00

Well, let me try to remember.

SPEAKER_05 21:02

Um Wolf thinks that we are not separate from nature, and I think we are.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

Oh yeah. Like we are nature.

SPEAKER_05 21:16

And I'm like, um, yeah, we're animals. We agree on that.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Totally.

SPEAKER_05 21:21

Anyway, it's just like a huge rift in our relationship.

SPEAKER_06 21:27

The slow eye contact between them both in that moment.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Um yeah, I mean, I'm less like, what would be the separation between us and like how like what would it make? What would what would even make sense to separate us from nature? Like what would be the separation?

SPEAKER_05 21:43

You don't see it at all?

SPEAKER_03 21:44

No.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

I Lord, don't get me started. I don't know. I'm I'm on the same page as you, but I think that we've also created separation. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

And I think Yeah, but it's made up, right? Like it's it's artificially generated.

SPEAKER_06 22:01

Oh absolutely it's all programming, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Big nature, big nature getting in here just brainwashing me. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

No, no, no, no, it's squirrel lobby, watch out.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Really powerful.

SPEAKER_05 22:21

No, it's not the nature that's brainwashing you, it's people. It's it's the 1%.

SPEAKER_06 22:30

I'm not sure how I'm gonna back this up. Hmm. Well, do you guys want to know about my wonder quest?

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Well, I was just about to ask you about that. Thanks. Thanks so much for volunteering.

SPEAKER_05 22:42

Before you say that, um, my trainer told me this week that it's illegal to communicate with dolphins. Okay, tell us about your wonder quest.

SPEAKER_06 22:55

Okay. I want everybody to go find an album of music uh at random, not something you've ever heard before, not something recommended by anyone, and not something that's in a genre that you would usually listen to. Find one at random, potentially judging the book by its cover. So find something, just like scroll through Spotify or whatever, find something with an album cover, you're like, oh that's cool. Make sure it's not a genre you you usually listen to.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

Or it's a genre that maybe you don't know what it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_06 23:33

Yes, but if you start playing it and it's just like indie and that's what you usually listen to, then then do something else. You know what I mean? Um and listen to it at least twice through.

SPEAKER_07 23:43

Ooh, nice.

SPEAKER_06 23:43

And the nice thing about that is that you can also do it like while you're driving to work or whatever, so it's not like you actually have to like spend a lot of time on it. You still have to listen to it twice. Stick it out.

SPEAKER_05 23:53

Yeah. Um, Wolf has a hell of a lot of records, and so I wondered if since you have a record player and records and you like to go to the thrift shop, maybe you'd want to do yours analog style.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

I do want to do mine analog style. Uh there's two I have in mind. I don't know what either one of them are.

SPEAKER_06 24:11

That you already have?

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 24:12

But like even the genre is a mystery to you.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Well, um hold on.

unknown 24:18

Oh, he found it.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

I found it. And everything on it, so um I don't know what it is because everything on it is in Greek.

SPEAKER_06 24:26

Oh my god, that's amazing. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Right?

SPEAKER_06 24:30

This is fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

This is this is the level of information we have. A Greek man with a synthesizer.

SPEAKER_05 24:37

Negative information. You know what? You do you do have one piece of data that it wasn't made by aliens.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

We don't know that.

SPEAKER_05 24:44

So I don't think it'll work.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

You're saying because it could be aliens.

SPEAKER_05 24:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:50

Aliens is still a genre that we don't listen to, potentially. Except for Beyonce, if you've ever listened to Beyonce, if you listen to aliens. Do you think that? Uh no, actually, she's not an alien, she's a reptilian, and it's different, so. Wait, how is an alien different than a reptilian? Reptilians come from uh Lemuria or Mu.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Where's that?

SPEAKER_06 25:12

Atlantis.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

Oh, under the wall under the sea.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

Do you think that there were only reptilians from those cities, or were there other kinds of beings too?

SPEAKER_06 25:22

That's a really great question. Men. I think they were only reptilians. Sobering kind of like Barack Obama.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

You think Barack Obama's a reptilian?

SPEAKER_06 25:34

No, but they do. They think everybody that has any of the things.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

That does help.

SPEAKER_06 25:49

Okay, yeah.

unknown 25:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:51

And Justice Beaver.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

That would be a good uh drag queen name.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

That's a great drag queen name. Justice Beaver. Justice Beaver? That's good. Just he's nuts.

SPEAKER_06 26:12

Wow. Is he like do you pay him to fist bump you when you say that? He's well trained. He's my sub.

SPEAKER_03 26:21

It's time to spin the wonder wheel.

SPEAKER_06 26:26

No spoilers. No spoilers. Literally nothing. Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 26:33

We forgot to make a label for that one. It's called this or that. Okay. Wolf, what is it?

SPEAKER_03 26:41

Alright, so this or that. FaceTime versus phone calls.

SPEAKER_06 26:47

I would probably choose video chat most of the time. Why? I don't know. It's kind of like, what's up? What are you doing? Let me see what you're doing. Because the main thing that I do when I call people, thank you. Uh, is my first question anytime I call somebody is, what are you doing? Because I want to know, are you busy? Because if they're like, oh, I'm at work, I'm like, oh, I can call you later.

SPEAKER_07 27:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:09

I don't just jump into what I'm trying to talk about. I say, what are you doing? Um it's really respectful and self-aware. Thank you. I hope people think it's that and not just me being nosy. Um yeah, so I open with what are you doing? So if it's a video chat, then I can automatically be like, oh, you're at work, sorry. Or like, you know, whatever. Oh, you're on the toilet, cool. So what's up? You have you're not busy. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

So nothing but time.

SPEAKER_06 27:34

Yeah. I I like the video chat. Okay. I have no bad angle, so I'm cool with being like, you know, three chins video chat. You have no bad angle. Oh, we're joking. Oh, it was a joke.

SPEAKER_07 27:46

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 27:47

You should laugh.

SPEAKER_06 27:48

I'm just comfortable with my bad angles. I think it's that.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

I prefer phone calls. Because I like to like be a little bit busy. Like I like to be doing a little bit of something with the rest of my body while I'm talking to somebody. Like doing the dishes or walking around tidying up or going for a walk or whatever, and that's easier.

SPEAKER_05 28:09

You just set the phone down, dude. On a on a video call.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

Yeah, but it's annoying you have to pick it up and move it over here when you move over there, and then you have to move it over here when you move over there, and I'd rather just be like and I think it's easier for me to focus on what they're saying if there's not like a bunch of visual stimuli.

SPEAKER_05 28:25

What if you're sitting on the couch and you've been sitting on the couch and you plan to continue sitting on the couch?

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Yeah, then I like a then I like a uh video call. Video calls fine for that. But I probably wouldn't initiate it. It also could be habit.

SPEAKER_05 28:37

I love FaceTime.

SPEAKER_03 28:41

I think you love FaceTime more than anybody I know.

SPEAKER_05 28:44

So here's one my question. Is it annoying?

SPEAKER_03 28:47

No, I don't think so. Occasionally, actually.

SPEAKER_05 28:52

Probably only like 15 to 20% of the because you're not fucking interested in talking on the video.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

Or I'm doing something. And it's like I could take the phone call and continue doing what I'm doing and talk to you. Or I could take the video call and stop what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_05 29:10

I there I I can do so many things in the video call. I don't feel limited. Like I can do my activities.

SPEAKER_03 29:22

I guess maybe, yeah, that's interesting. Actually, I'm thinking about that when you video call me and like you set the phone down on the counter and like you're about this big in the camera. And in those moments, I'm kind of like, why are we video calling?

SPEAKER_04 29:35

Seems like it just feels more like hanging out connection.

SPEAKER_06 29:38

Yeah, okay, okay. Coexisting virtually. Yeah, it feels like there's less of a time limit than a phone call.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

Interesting, really.

SPEAKER_06 29:45

Like a phone call, you're like, okay, well, I'll talk to you later. Video calls are just like, so what are you doing now?

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Oh, I feel the reverse. I feel like the phone call can be infinite.

SPEAKER_06 29:57

I feel like now we're hearing that you're not as much of a video call fan, which you've already said.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

So indeed.

SPEAKER_06 30:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Yeah, I occasionally. And the reality with the video calls is I do often when someone video calls me, I enjoy it more than I expect to. I will I will confess to that.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

This is the story of your life. It really is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:17

You're digging your heels in the dirt. You're like, oh, I'm surprised. Actually, you really enjoyed that. All the time. All the time.

SPEAKER_07 30:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 30:27

Well, my family and I, FaceTime and WhatsApp video call each other n almost every day.

SPEAKER_03 30:34

That's really cute.

SPEAKER_05 30:34

Not everybody is on the call, but wait, wait, oh, like a group call. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_05 30:39

Yeah. Someone just presses the I mean, the the family chat's going off every day. I mean, we've got photos of puppies and children and what?

SPEAKER_06 30:53

We got a lot of photos of kids in there. We do. Whose children? Ours. Oh, you don't have children. Right. I'm sensing that.

SPEAKER_05 31:06

Picked up on that. Huh? You picked up on that. Yeah, I don't know. Call me perceptive. But um we just hang out. We just like if I'm cooking, I'll call my sisters or that's cute. I don't know. I just love talking to my family. And there are some people, Sienna, I FaceTime them sometimes. I'm FaceTime my people. It's just so much fun to just hang. And I don't feel like I have to hang out more than I want to. Just because it's a video call or a f or any kind of call.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

I don't like remote hanging.

SPEAKER_05 31:48

He doesn't like it now, he'll like it later. You're catching on.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

I it feels it feels weirdly dis like it feels it feels like a weird like simulacrum of being in real life in a way that I don't like.

SPEAKER_05 32:00

Simulacrum.

SPEAKER_03 32:02

Like it's like a simulation of real life, but without all the pieces. And that's uncomfortable to me. Whereas like the phone call is like it's so distinctive a thing. Like it's totally different from being in real life with somebody. Yeah. That it feels okay. The video call feels like it's like an uncanny valley. It's like a little bit too close to real life without the ability to like actually sense, yeah, smell each other. Smell each other's assholes and just see where you're at. Right?

SPEAKER_05 32:33

Like so much context is missing.

SPEAKER_03 32:35

It's exactly. I can't I can't smell it too at yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 32:38

Okay, that's a little too far.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

Is it?

SPEAKER_05 32:41

Don't look at me like that. Jeez.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

Shall we take a break?

SPEAKER_05 32:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

And then we'll bring in the air.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Daddy's what Daddy says grows. Did you know there's a show? An old show.