SPEAKER_02 0:00

Yeah, it's my first penis I'd ever seen. I hadn't I grew I mean I had a sister. Like, I don't know. What the fuck is that? Like, are you good? Are you healthy? No, I'm really concerned for him. We need a look at the night sky.

SPEAKER_01 0:14

Be prepared to think and feel anything.

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There are no forbidden.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Not knowing what's out there.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Welcome to the Wonder Pod, Wonder Pod Wonder Pod. Nicole.

unknown 0:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

How's it going? I wish you all could be here with us. Finger guns. Um, we have Nicole on the podcast. She's um freshly in the studio with um a blue tube tube top and linen pants. A cocktail called a paper planes and good news! What's the good news? You're about to tell us. Tell us three things about yourself. Oh, okay. Um, I wrote these down so that I wouldn't forget my first one is that I identify as a trickster. Ooh. Do we understand what that means?

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I think you need to elaborate a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Do you think Elise identifies as a trickster? 100%. Okay, then yes. If we were to ask Elise, her answer would be yes. You play pranks. You like people to be like, ah See, it's not that. You like making people uncomfortable. You laugh when someone falls. Okay, let me give you, let me, let me give you what trickster is. Are you ready? Okay, yeah. The woman who wrote Eat Pray Love, I forget her name. Liz Gilbert. Thank you. She wrote a book called Big Magic. Have either of you read it? Love it. Okay, so then you know what a trickster is. She don't in this book writes about this concept. And she says that there are two types of people in the world. There are tricksters and there are martyrs. And the trickster is somebody who's like, you know, I'm gonna frickin' figure this shit out, or like, you know, just has this mentality of um hard things, bad things happen, but I'm just gonna fucking go for it and like weasel my way in and like, you know, just like Wolf's look well, if you're you're not here, but Wolf looks confused.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Continue. Okay, continue.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

He's just trying to already challenge you. He's just coming up with what is he needs to say? He's ready to retaliate. He looks constipated. Yeah, the trickster's energy is like, you know, things happen and like I persevere. I keep working, you know, I keep I find my way in. Work around. Yeah, I find a workaround. I'm like, there no is not an answer. Like, um They're like, so you're saying there's a maybe. Yeah. They're like, they're like, okay, if I can't do that, then I for sure can do it this way. You know, they're just sort of like weasel. Yeah. And then but in a good way, and like a wholehearted way. And then the martyr is somebody who's like, life happens to me. Like, you know, those that energy that's like.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Yeah, it's like, are you gonna grab life by the balls by the booty, or are you gonna well the balls is in front is better, I think.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Oh boobs. Boobs. Boobs, yeah. Are you gonna grab life by the boobs and drink the cantaloupe breast milk? Or are you gonna lay down and get run over? Exactly. No breast milk. Tell me more about the martyr because obviously the trickter sounds like a cooler person, but sell us on the martyr a little bit more. The martyr is just like life has components of it that can be really challenging, and we all get into martyr energy at some phase of our life or others, right? Like, we all get stuck into that in that mindset when bad things happen. But like the goal is to persevere and come out of it as a trickster and just like you know, spinning these negative things into into positive things. Instead of giving in, you're like, wait a sec. How can I turn this into lemonade? Okay, exactly. So you're a trickster. Yeah. Thank you. Next. Okay, next is I love plants. I love eating them, I love growing them, I love looking at them. I love thinking about them. I like thinking about them. Do you like wearing them? I love wearing them. I love like learning about them. I studied botany in school. I have a fuck ton of houseplants. I used to manage a regenerative farm. Like, I am just obsessed with plants in this like really intense way. Beautiful. What's your favorite plant? Okay, that was a rude question.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Scandalous request.

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Who's your favorite child? That's easier, probably.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Circle back on that one. I don't know. Yeah, you got it. Cabbage? They're versatile. They grow versatile and hardy. They grow so cool, also. What do you mean they grow cool? Like they have all these outer layers to protect them from insects. Okay. They're just like and then on the inside curled up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like layers and layers and layers of, and then on the inside, it's just like mouth sounds. Okay, cabbage, next. My last one is that I really like to make up songs. Like when I'm doing things. Yeah. Typically at home, so you know, that's fun. Can you do a little ditty what about what's going on right now? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Has to be divine inspiration.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Can I can I help you? Yeah. I'm Cinbanical.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

It's like toss it to you.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

How is that? How does that feel for you to receive? You know, it was good. And build on. It was fine. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

That's very trickster of you to just let that drop. Yeah, you're giving marble. Sorry, it's pretty bad.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

This is my first time on a podcast. Is it really? Yeah.

unknown 6:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

Hence the way that I'm licking this microphone. Is this normal? Okay, do you want to spin the Wheel of Wonder? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, hold it by the mic and spin it like you're trying to convince us of something. This is homemade by Wolf.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Indeed.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Core childhood memory.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Okay, great. You go first.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Seriously. What's the first thing that comes to mind? The first thing that really honestly, the first thing that comes to mind is when I was very young, I fell into our pool. Um and I almost like literally died. Oh, okay. And then no one's eyes were on me. And then my dad got home from work and he was like, oh, she's drowning. And like how old were you? I don't know. I think I was like three. Oh no. You were by yourself. This is not a memory. Everybody just tells me this. Like I could have died, and then I didn't. Whoa. So and they tell you that in what kinds of moments? Um, moments where you're in trouble or when they feel really ooey-gooey about you. More the former. When you're in trouble. You know, Nicole. That's why. The oxygen from her brain was cut off actually for a little too long. Sweet. Well, thanks for sharing. Yeah. But it wasn't a memory, so I feel like I need to like you guys go first. Let me think on it. I've noticed that with this question, whoever goes first sets the tone for all of us. Because now I'm like, pool, pool, pool. Death.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Death. Death. Let me riff on death. I found mine. Good. What a relief. Do you want me to go? Yeah. Okay, because I see you think. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

The gears are still turning. So.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

It feels right. Okay, core childhood memory. My dad and my sister and I were trying to, well, I wasn't, but my dad was trying to teach my sister how to drive a vehicle. And so he's like, let's rent a car and drive from California to Canada. And we're like, and we're like, we'll just fucking send it and like you'll learn on the road. You sure will. And we're just gonna drive to BC and just like have a grand old time. Wow, that sounds really fun though. Yeah. So we we rent a car, but the car that we rent is a Jeep that has an open roof. Yeah. Like was it in the summer? It was, but like, you know, early summer, let's call it June. Yeah, for sure. June. So it's like we're in this Jeep. Jeeps are hard to drive. My sister was having the hardest time figuring shit out. Like a manual? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

They just blow around a lot.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

Yeah, and then they're just like big and beefy, and just so she was having a really hard time, and I was stuck in the back, and my dad would not let us put the roof up the entire drive. So you're just, I'm like literally caught. I cannot sleep, but there's no saliva in my mouth. I'm just like stuck back there. When did like there's like my whole face is just like plastered dry. It was so cold the whole drive. And then we get there, like many days later, we get to Canada, and my dad's like, oh, look at this river. Let's like pull off and we'll eat our peanut butter and jelly sandwiches by the river. My sister and I were like, Great, that sounds great. So we get out of our car and we like sit down to eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. And then it's just like insect mayhem. Like they just started swarming. It was like really intense. And so my dad has this hilarious memory of like my sister and I running up and down the river, and we're just like you know, back and forth, back forth. Yeah, back and forth, back and forth. And um, that's a really core childhood memory, just that whole experience. You couldn't go back in the car for protection, right? And then at the end of the trip, my dad's like, all right, you guys put the roof back on. Like, I have no fucking idea how to put a Jeep roof back on. So we spent like six hours trying to put this. Yeah, so anyway. You you and your sister. Yes. Why wouldn't he help you? Because it was a learning experience. It put some hair on your chest. Yeah. So did you figure it out? We I think so. How old were you? Um like 12. How old was she? How old do you when you learned to dry? Yeah, 15. Yeah. Huh. Did you feel upset with him that he wouldn't let you close the roof? I mean, yeah. Yeah. I never got to be in the front. Would that have made it better? I think so, because the windshield is there. Oh, there was a windshield. Yeah, like I'm literally on the floor. I'm on the floor with like a blanket over my head. Oh no. That's fine though. Formative experience. Bugs. Yeah. Does that bring anything up for you?

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Totally unrelated. I've never been in a Jeep. Um that's actually not true, but definitely not with the top off.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Wow. You really need to experience that.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Honestly, I'm missing out.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Especially in the back seat.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Yeah, for several days straight. Sounds like the way to go.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Really great experience, all in all.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Um when I was like probably like 13, maybe, we had to renovate a big part of the house because they were termites. And so my whole room was like totally ripped apart, and so I had to sleep in the barn.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Seems like there would be termites in the barn, too.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Uh no, it wasn't somehow.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Yeah, I think the termites in the house were actually less than they thought. The active termites, you know? It was like some of it was like termites that have been in there like a hundred years ago. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

The termites had been there for a hundred years.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

No, there had like there were sections that were termite damaged, but not recently.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

And if it's not recent and the house isn't falling down, then like you kind of don't have to do anything about it.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

If they're not actively eating more of the house, I I guess. Um anyway, so I I like lived in the barn for like two or three months and um which was mostly great. Like I had this childhood like um dream that I've still yet to live out of like, and it it it comes from this some European techno guy music video that I saw, like in the early 2000s, where he was like living, it was like this old warehouse, you know, and it was like a quarter of it was like set up as like a house, you know, it's just like there's like kitchen cabinets and just like a bed sitting in the middle of like this warehouse, you know. And one half it was like a motorcycle garage, and then there was like a DJ thing on one corner, you know, and it was just like one giant concrete building in Europe or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

It's very cool, so cool.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Yeah, and I was like, this is amazing. Like this would be this is this is like the epitome of life, you know.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

I think you're slowly approaching that where you are right now with what you're building. It's similar. It's similar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Likely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The vastness of the space, right? The like the freedom of that much space, I think, is um was very alluring. Um anyway, and so living in the barn, it felt like halfway there, you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Um probably felt so cool.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

I felt so cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

How old were you?

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Like twelve or thirteen. Thirteen, I think. I think I was in high school. Uh-huh. But yeah, it was like I had my like bed, you know, it was like huge, right? And so it's like my bed's out there. I've got like my computer set up to like do my DJing and shit.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

And like and there's just like only a couple rats and and no siblings because you're the oldest.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

No siblings, which is cool. Um, but also like a third of the barn is like my dad's work office space. Like it's it's four people work there, it's big-ish, you know. Um, so that was a little bit strange when you're like, because you know, you're 13, you're waking up at like 10 30 in the morning, right? Yeah. And then you're like, oh, I don't know. But um, it was it felt very cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

Did you do anything sneaky? Yeah, did you ever like bring people back?

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Not in that, not not within that particular moment.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Um did your siblings or parents ever come visit you and be like, cool, pad?

SPEAKER_00 15:14

No, no, we were we were we uh were had a little bit of a confrontational relationship in that era.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

What do you mean? Like what do you mean by that? Like you guys didn't just pop by and say hi.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

More space, more space was bet was better for everyone. Okay, you know?

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Yeah, I mean I feel like that's how the teen years go. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

It's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Yeah. Armpits and um other body parts. Hormones. Hormones. Just let them be. I remember um speaking of some remodeling, I don't know if you were talking about remodeling, it kind of sounded like it. Yeah, that's where we started in Alaska. Um we had a house that we lived in, and my and we were remodeling. Um, there was some part of the floor that had to be ripped out and redone. And so the bathroom door had a hole in it where you put the doorknob for a little bit. Yeah, because we were in the you know, we were about to get the doorknob or whatever, and once I looked through and I saw a penis for the first time. Oh I don't want to say your dad's you never saw your penises? Penis? No. It was pretty startling. How old was Ru then? How old were you? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Like 12?

SPEAKER_02 16:43

Less than 11. Because when we we moved when I was eleven.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

One time when I was in second grade, I wasn't I went to Catholic school. Like we went to church twice a week. Nice, yeah, same. Not Catholic.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Wait, you weren't Cat why were you in Catholic school?

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Just because it was the best school. Oh, okay. Okay. But you went to church twice a week? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 17:05

But they made me sit in the back because I was too frightened. Yeah. Back back pew.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

Smoking cigarettes, wearing a mini skirt. This was like chewing gum with your mouth. But yeah, essentially. Fourth grader with Virginia Slims. Gotcha. Um second grade. This kid next to me in my table desk, he goes, Do you want to see something cool? And I was like, God. And he it was gym day too, so we had elastic waistbands. Just like you know, normally we don't. And he he like pulls his chair out and he goes, Look down. Oh my god. And he showed me his tiny little thumb-sized penis. And I was I I had no idea what to do with this information. Yeah. Do you say like thanks or uh yes? Yeah, it's my first penis I'd ever seen. I had I grew, I mean, I had a sister. Like, I don't know. What the fuck is that? Like, are you good? Are you healthy? Do your parents know more than I'm really concerned for him? Startling. Can I say his name? That's fine with me. Okay. Benjamin. Kevin Candazzaro. If you're listening, this is a formative memory. Core memory.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

When did you see the first penis that you hadn't owned? You had brothers. Yeah, I had brothers. Yeah, it doesn't count. How many?

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Two.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Wow, stinky. And a sister?

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Yeah. Wow, good memory. Yeah.

unknown 18:46

I feel bad for her.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

That's a lot of boys. Alright. What's next?

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Ready, Shreddy?

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Let's take a break.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Oh my god. It's kind of stressful.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Is it? I don't have a rip rolling. You're doing great.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Okay, thanks.